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Checks, Tech, and Dad Hijinks Unchecked

• Ryan McDonald • Episode 35

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Ever found yourself scratching your head at the latest kid craze your little one can't stop talking about? Well, grab your headphones, because on the latest Nacho Average Padres podcast, Robb and I are diving into the perplexing world of "Skibidi toilet" and other viral sensations that have us chuckling and bewildered. We're peeling back the layers on these trends and drawing lines to the ones that had us hooked as kids, all while marveling at how the web has put these fads into hyperdrive.

Remember when YouTube was a fledgling dating site? Fast forward, and it's a cultural cornerstone shaping our world. We're talking about its evolution and the rollercoaster of tech entrepreneurship—how a simple idea can skyrocket to success and change hands for a fortune. Join us as we explore the dreams and drive of icons like Zuckerberg, J.K. Rowling, and Lady Gaga, whose stories are as compelling as their achievements. This conversation isn't just about success; it's about the relentless spirit that powers it.

For a touch of nostalgia mixed with modern musings, we're reminiscing about timeless talents like Christopher Walken and the age-old practice of writing checks, comparing it to today's digital banking. Then, prepare to chuckle over Robb's curious CVS escapades, which lead us down a rabbit hole of financial security and the comical quirks of our everyday spending. So kick back, relax, and let's navigate the hilarious twists and turns of millennial dad life together—only on Nacho Average Padres Podcast!

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Ryan:

Well, is this the intro? Oh, wow, it is Okay. Okay, you've stumbled onto the Nacho Average Padres podcast, a show about millennial dads before millennial dads and friends, of course. Pull up a chair and join us. It's going to be an interesting one. While you're here, you can reach us on Twitter at Nacho Padres Pod. We're on Instagram at Nacho Average Padres, or you can email us at NachoAveragePodres at gmailcom. Hey, if you appreciate the show, leave us a review. It's definitely going to help us out. Hey, are we ready to go? I think we're good. Alright, enjoy the show. Hey, there, fellow Padres and friends, welcome back to the Nacho Average Padres podcast. We're going to talk about everything related to the millennial dad, as it should be. I'm your host, Ryan, and join with me, as always, is my good friend, Robb. What is going on, sir?

Robb:

What's going on, man? Happy to be back after our quite long hiatus.

Ryan:

Yes, it was a very long hiatus.

Robb:

I think what much needed. Oh yeah, no, I mean sometimes you gotta. Sometimes distance makes the heart grow fonder.

Ryan:

It did, I'm tweeting as well. Is tweeting even a thing, I know? Last time we did an episode, twitter was still a thing.

Robb:

Yeah, I mean, maybe I don't know. I don't know if they call it xing.

Ryan:

Yeah, I have no idea. I think that's very sexualized.

Robb:

I know. Yeah, I don't think so. Yeah, I don't know.

Ryan:

See, I don't know what it's called. Now I'm going to ask the Twitter community, or XR community.

Robb:

Yeah, because now it just says post, post. It just says post.

Ryan:

Just post.

Robb:

Yeah, before it used to say tweet.

Ryan:

Is that what?

Robb:

No, it just says post.

Ryan:

Oh, it does say post.

Robb:

Yeah, so now it's just post I'm looking at it right now. Yeah.

Ryan:

That's a shame.

Robb:

Yeah, kind of regular, very average.

Ryan:

Speaking of Twitter and X and all that jazz. I actually did want to talk to you about one main topic, and then, of course, we can go all over the place, but I wanted to talk about trends and specifically, it could be any trend, but I was more. The reason why I thought of trends is because my son is really into this skibbity, bup, bup, shit toilet thing. I don't know what it's about. I'm very confused. What? Yeah, you don't.

Robb:

I have no idea what you just said. You said words and none of them made sense.

Ryan:

I don't even. It's not making sense to me.

Robb:

I'm hoping some dads out there Skibbity, bup, bup, toilet, yeah, what?

Ryan:

Yeah, I had to search it through my phone because he wanted it on his playlist that I have created. What's it called? Yeah, skibbity toilet, skibbity toilet, yeah never, and I have not heard.

Ryan:

And it's a head, but it's a head from like Team Fortress Guy, one of the Team Fortress dudes. His head is in a toilet. Apparently he's a villain in a Roblox or something, I don't know. He became super duper popular with the kids I don't know why, but he is and he has a song and my son knows it by heart and it's just one of these trends that I don't understand.

Robb:

What in the heck? Yeah, no clue.

Ryan:

All right. So you've been at least spared from your children from seeing this because it hasn't reached your house yet. Yeah no, apparently not, and I don't want to spread the infection of this song over to your household. So but yeah, that's a trend, it's a Is it like?

Robb:

is it a? Is it a? It's just like a song.

Ryan:

Yeah, I don't even know if, like if I play it, will it, you know, be heard on a microphone well, or will it just be wonky? Let's see. Yeah, I think you can hear it.

Robb:

Oh, ok, I just found it oh.

Ryan:

Yeah, it's a beat. Wait, is this even it? Oh, that's not it.

Robb:

It's just a bunch of weird heads.

Ryan:

This is it.

Robb:

In toilets. Yeah, this is kind of scary, though, oh it's, it's, it's terrible. This is pretty. This is kind of horrifying.

Ryan:

Yeah, oh, it's from TikTok and it's a remix from TikTok, no wonder. But he swears he's gotten this from Roblox, which I kind of believe because he's he's on that thing all the time.

Robb:

Yeah, this is kind of this is very creepy.

Ryan:

It's Nightmare, fuel.

Robb:

Oh boy.

Ryan:

But it's. The reason why I'm bringing it up is because I was trying to think back in the day. What was the trend for us that we were really into? And I'm like everyone knew it and everyone was into it at the exact same time. And for the life of me, I can't think of one, and I bet, once you shout it out, I'm going to go. Yes, oh.

Robb:

I don't think there were many when I was a kid at least not that I can remember. Like as a young kid I feel like stuff kind of started being part of like culture and like semi viral by word of mouth in high school Right For me, at least as far as I can remember, like junior high school, I don't really remember anything like that Like in elementary schools, really just kind of like whatever the cartoon of the time was.

Robb:

Yeah, even then it wasn't anything like huge, but in terms of weird off the cuff kind of stuff, I think it really didn't happen until the internet really kind of became big and I didn't get access to the internet until I was 14. And it was still fairly in its infancy in terms of like dial up and all that stuff.

Ryan:

But yeah.

Robb:

I do remember in my high school, going into college, I was like I'm not going into college days. I remember strong, bad being huge. You remember home star runner, oh no, oh, home star run about to look at us. Some funny stuff, man. That was really funny. They had some really cool. They had some really funny skits. It was just ridiculous. But home star runner was this like character that had no arms, but he was like a weird it was like a very weird like flash animation kind of stuff.

Robb:

Like flash animation was really big. I don't know if you remember the games from like new grounds. You remember how big new ground yes, yeah, New grounds is really big for me and like high school and stuff, like all the games and stuff that they had over the flash animations that they would have of just weird you know whatever weird cartoons. I feel like new grounds was kind of like the place to be with like edgy, you know animations that people created.

Ryan:

Yeah, I remember well. Ebombs world was mine for a while.

Robb:

That was my first world had a lot of like meme videos and stuff like that. They had a lot of stuff and that was like pushing the envelope either to the sexual or the violent or the funny or the whatever. They kind of had a smattering of stuff.

Ryan:

Yeah, it did. Oh, I'm looking at the cartoon and I vaguely remember this. I with the, the guy who looked like he just has legs and, in a torso, no arms. Yeah, that is a head.

Robb:

Yeah, that's home star and like, if you see all the characters, like the one that really got, because because the name of the whole, the whole thing was home star runner, so he was the main character, but the standout character was strong, bad, which is the one that has, like, the Bane wrestler mask on Okay.

Robb:

Yeah, With the with the boxing gloves. Yeah, I see him like no T shirt. He was really the one that kind of took off because they had created a segment of the site which is him answering emails and I don't know if the emails were legit or if they were like scripted so that he can answer them absolutely ridiculously, but but it was really really funny for its time.

Ryan:

Like it's, it's silly humor.

Robb:

You know it's kind of nonsense humor, but it was actually very funny for its time and I think the biggest thing that came out of that was like a couple of bits that I remember. One was a Trogdor, which was that the let an email had come in asking him how to draw a dragon, I think. So he draws like the most ridiculous dragon, like it has like one gigantic like diesel arm and apparently it's burns everything.

Robb:

And like he gives like a crash course on drawing like a really bad dragon with it with a giant beefy muscle arm and then he creates like a fake song, like for this character. It's very, very silly, but it's funny. It's funny Like I could definitely recommend a couple of videos that I think were like standouts that are just silly but very, very, very funny though, like for its time.

Ryan:

Yeah, yeah.

Robb:

So Home Start was a big one that I remember, and also the GI Joe remixes.

Ryan:

Oh, they're remixes.

Robb:

Like it wasn't the whole episode. But you remember how at the end of like oh GG, I Joe episodes, they would have kind of like a moral of the day kind of thing, Like teaching kids safety or whatever.

Ryan:

Yeah.

Robb:

There was like like somebody or some group of writers or whatever, where they took these and re-recorded new, new like voices to these and they would have a bunch of different ones that were just absolutely ridiculous. Like they were really, like they were so dumb, like they're not. They're not logically funny, they're funny cuz they're dumb.

Ryan:

Ah, you know, they're funny, yeah, yeah.

Robb:

It's just nonsense. Nonsense fuel more than anything.

Ryan:

That's amazing.

Robb:

But, but those I remember being really big because they were just so ridiculous it's, and it kind of put would poke fun at the character the gi Joe's themselves a little bit it was.

Ryan:

it was, though, though I remember that being pretty nice, I, um, I do remember that and I I wanted to add to that I wish they did something and maybe it already exists now but for, uh, captain America, captain America, no, no, no, captain planet, excuse me. And in that show, cuz they they had, like you know, like with the gi Joe's you just mentioned, like a two, three minute at the end of each episode, what you can do to save our planet, type deal, I wish they did something like that, like a spoof.

Robb:

That would be pretty cool.

Ryan:

And the other thing I wanted to say is Um, the other trend, probably from our day, speaking of you ebombs world and new grounds, um, the and I think it's an ebombs world too was the new manou. My a guy, the, the really big guy that would, that would dance that song that no one knew about, but it was so goddamn catchy and they made remixes off of him.

Robb:

I'm trying. I'm trying to remember.

Ryan:

You know my.

Robb:

Oh, okay, huh, but I don't, I don't think I remember the video.

Ryan:

It's a it's. It was a really large fella. First you get a him, you get a his face and he's wearing headset. He's wearing an og headset, um, thin on the ears, and he's just lip syncing this song. And oh, for some odd reason it was just catchy. It's in, it's in like songs from uh in the 2000s I think it was in a ti song.

Robb:

Yeah, no, I know, I know the song, but yeah, I don't think I ever saw that video. Oh man.

Ryan:

It's gotta be on youtube I think that's.

Robb:

what's interesting is that, um, I think a lot of stuff existed, but because the internet was still kind of young, yeah. I think that's why it kind of avoided like getting as viral as big thing as as things you know tend to get now, because Because the whole thing of going viral didn't really start until um vine. Oh, uh, yeah, vine is okay things started to kind of quote unquote, go viral. So anything that predates vine, um, didn't get the same kind of virality Like the videos from vinewood.

Ryan:

Hmm, that makes sense.

Robb:

Yeah, no. So like I feel like that's why some stuff like we know very well and feel like they kind of existed, you know for to our capacity, like oh, everywhere, but also kind of not really.

Ryan:

It was just like in our ecosystem, it was everywhere right, well, yeah, because all of our friends knew the exact same.

Robb:

Yeah, exactly, exactly like did you see that? Yeah, it only took me six hours to download it yeah because like, uh, you know, like, like because vine, it was at that point, you know, social media was much bigger. Uh, facebook had already been around for a for a bit. Um, but in terms of, like, small snippet videos that were funny, that were easy to share.

Ryan:

Yeah that's.

Robb:

That's really when it kind of started.

Ryan:

And I'm, and I'm trying to think Um, when did vine become a thing?

Robb:

youtube, as the bigger it got, also got its right fair share of videos, more long form stuff, but still like like a star wars kid. He went pretty viral. But true. I think that was much later on.

Ryan:

I'm trying and it's funny because I never knew it to be. Um, but youtube was a dating site at first.

Robb:

Was it.

Ryan:

Yeah, I pretty sure it was. Uh, it was meant to be like um, one of those dating sites where you would take a video of yourself and presented to a potential mate and um, from there you would see if things worked out. But people used it for something else and then, just, you know, blew up from there of as we know it today. Wow, I don't look this up. I don't want to be lying to everyone.

Robb:

That's. That's kind of funny.

Ryan:

You're gonna hear me type.

Robb:

And then, right, you're gonna be like sorry everyone, I lied, I am full of crap. Maybe I should go to the bathroom before, maybe, yeah, so I can be rush up on my facts.

Ryan:

Oh, look at that. Youtube started out as a dating site. On valentine's day, 2005, 18 years, uh. 18 years ago this month, co-founder chat hurley registered the logo, trademark and domain Uh name for youtubecom. The idea was for users would upload videos talking about themselves and they would, um, and they were looking for in a partner. Wow, that's so the google's. The google's knows.

Robb:

That's so, that's so. Wow, now look at it now. Youtube is like it's mega huge your place For video content.

Ryan:

Yeah, chat, didn't think it was gonna blow up this well.

Robb:

Yeah, I mean, I'm sure I'm at this point, I'm sure chat is long gone now.

Ryan:

Uh.

Robb:

Over a while ago maybe probably you might, he might still be in there somewhere as a somebody like still collect like george Lucas is the star wars, like bajillions of dollars, like everybody yeah. Yeah, that's kind of the thing create the cool thing, let it get hot and then, once somebody's interested in buying it, sell it for a billion dollars and just retire for the rest of your life and call it, basically, just make sure my name's in the right way to go.

Robb:

Yeah, oh, it's the nature of tech. Let let a bigger company take over and do it properly. Save yourself to head. It's so funny you mentioned it.

Ryan:

I'm sure that's my microsoft's where it's at, and uh, a lot of other tech companies are.

Robb:

Yeah, I mean, that's how they all do it. You know, like zuck. You know, zuck, he did, he did the same thing. Facebook got so big and he was like all right, I'm done, I want to take a seat back, seat, yeah, but he's still the face of facebook though. Well, yeah, I mean, he still very much has this thumb on the pulse of facebook.

Ryan:

Yeah, I'm sure, yeah, gotta make sure it's, you know, beaten to his drum. No.

Robb:

That's some capacity I mean the guys have, but me he's a bajillion error. Bajillion, mind you like he only uses like a percentage of whatever he like he had gotten. The rest he like donated to chatter, chatterity and he's still a billionaire.

Ryan:

Yeah, that's funny.

Robb:

Yeah, it's kind of kind of kind of kind of amazing, but I mean, that's that's, that's that's uh Capitalism for you.

Ryan:

Yeah, the american dream.

Robb:

Oh yeah, hopefully you get to be that, not in that point. You know, two percent, that rocks it.

Ryan:

I don't even know if I would want to be there. I, I, um, I.

Robb:

It takes. I think, I think it. I think it ultimately takes a specific type of person To to really do that, because I feel like people that and it's not so much that they can handle the fame or whatever, but they think in such a way that has allowed them To do what they did right. To get to that place, um, that, that, that, and not to call them abnormal, but the everyday person just doesn't think like that.

Robb:

Hmm, you know what I'm saying. I feel like it, like it takes a specific soup of circumstances to happen to create the kind of people that do that, that, that become that large and whatever it is that they're doing. You know, like how many stories have you heard of people that were like homeless once upon a time and now they're like Bajillionaires because they just got that one good idea that they absolutely Obsessed and had passion for that. They just did, and Now they have, me know, multi-million dollar companies.

Ryan:

Yeah.

Robb:

Like that's kind of a well-known story of people, that Of some people that have become affluent. I mean, that was jk rowling, you know. She was down on the dumps, wrote a kid's book, and now she's freaking a bajillion. Yes, yeah, yeah, I'm saying like go figure, and she wrote a story, she wrote it, she wrote a wizard story for her kids. And now look where she is.

Ryan:

Yeah.

Robb:

You know, like it's just people play quidditch and I don't know how it's a proper, it's like it's a there's a proper recipe and it's and it's hard to and it's hard to replicate, you know.

Ryan:

I mean, it's not only to Creators. Well, I guess artists, music artists are creators too. Um like, look at Lizzo as well.

Robb:

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna car.

Ryan:

now she's, you know it's got more money than right now, you know summer strictly, strictly talent based.

Robb:

you know like, like lady Gaga, I always oh yeah, yeah you always had talent, but she was nobody for a very long time. Yeah and all of a sudden everybody's like whoa lady gaga. You know, like, who's this new person, this new face, and it's like no, she's been writing very popular songs for a while that you know. She never sang them. So, it's like it's.

Ryan:

It's very interesting, you know it's so funny to bring her up.

Robb:

Sometimes there's like a massive grind that people just don't see and they think these people came out of nowhere.

Ryan:

Whoa, where'd you come from? You're exploding on the charts.

Robb:

Yeah, that happens a lot, you know she had to. She had to create the whole gaga personality to stand out, because she had to be different. She couldn't be herself, she couldn't just rely on her talent, she had to be weird.

Ryan:

Yeah.

Robb:

You know, which is a shame, but it worked now. Now she can be herself Absolutely, because now she's, you know, she's cemented in, in, in, in, in, you know, the pop lexicon of the world. So she's, she's good now.

Ryan:

You know, it took me and I think this song came out like well, maybe 10, 15 years ago. It took me a long time to understand the lyrics of poker face.

Robb:

What do you mean?

Ryan:

The way that the song goes, it's poker face. Hope you don't you know, discover or look through her poker face. It's all about women faking an orgasm.

Robb:

Oh, right, right, right.

Ryan:

And it took me this long to finally get it.

Robb:

Oh yeah, I mean, I feel like there's a lot of songs that Well, that you kind of hear the words to be never really sit down and go. Huh, wait a second. You know what are we talking about.

Ryan:

What are you talking about? I mean, that's not to segue more, but that was like me watching Forrest Gump as an adult and reliving, not reliving going through all the history that I learned at school and how they plugged in into this movie. I'm like what. He was there this entire time. No, he made all these events. Oh God, they're so funny, but it's yeah. Took me 15 years to 10, 15 years to finally understand poker face and I feel dumb.

Robb:

That's funny because I feel like there's a lot of songs that I've been revisiting, that I knew from my childhood as a Latino hearing like OG salsa songs from the 70s that are extremely popular, like songs that if you listen to, you'd be like oh yeah, I've heard that somewhere. They're that popular and I grew up listening to them and I appreciate them and I still hear them and it's like over the last couple of years, I've been going back and listening to the words and being like holy crap, like they're not just catchy songs, they're just really well written songs, like instrumentally, they're so good. And then when you hear the words, you're like holy crap, like there's a lot here, there's a lot that they pack in. When you really start to listen to it, you're like geez man, like they had some words. They weren't just great to dance, these guys, they were spitting some crazy lyrics. It's very interesting, like, as you get older, like what you start to appreciate or re-appreciate, I guess, or appreciate it more.

Ryan:

Yeah.

Robb:

You just start to appreciate in a very different way.

Ryan:

You're like wow, oh, wow, wow.

Robb:

Wow, wow.

Ryan:

It's my Owen Wilson impersonation.

Robb:

Everybody got it. Everybody has Owen Wilson, just like everybody has a Christopher.

Ryan:

Walken yeah.

Robb:

And everybody also has an Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Ryan:

I got a fever. I can't do it as well as others.

Robb:

There's one thing that everybody quote, quote, can do.

Ryan:

I would love to learn from Christopher Walken. That guy's a hell of a dancer. No, he was he was a hell of a dancer.

Robb:

Yeah, I doubt he's dancing much, probably Much nowadays Probably not.

Ryan:

But hey, the man could cut the rug. I'm just saying.

Robb:

Yeah, he was very accomplished, Fatboy Slim knew it.

Ryan:

Yeah, that's why he put him in his video. Talk about a trend.

Robb:

Yeah man?

Ryan:

Yeah, he put him on the shine. I think that guy was dancing on walls in that video. How?

Robb:

does he do that?

Ryan:

Christopher Walken still got it, so you look at that guy. This guy, I'm Fred Astaire and Gene Kelly. I know right, yeah, dropping names. People are going to be like what, who, who are these? Especially Gen Z? They're going to be like who are you talking about?

Robb:

Oh man.

Ryan:

I hope not. I hope not, I'm.

Robb:

Fred Astaire maybe, but Gene Kelly, like, come on, that guy was like he was the jam.

Ryan:

He was.

Robb:

He was Absolutely was. Fred Astaire was like more I think more buttoned up than Gene Kelly. Gene Kelly was like the every guy.

Ryan:

Yeah, Well, I mean he took it. I mean he just he took something that he learned and just at his time, made it in his way Like he, he, he rolled with it and rocked it in his own way with. A lot of artists do nowadays to this, to this day. You know, they take something that they learned from their previous successor and then they, they roll it with it in their own, in their own fine tuned way, just to make it better, and then something that others can appreciate and learn from also.

Robb:

Yeah.

Ryan:

You know it's done every generation.

Robb:

Yeah. That's very true, very true, good point, good point.

Ryan:

That's what I hope you know. You know with our kids. Hopefully they learn from us and then they go. You know what? There's probably an easier way to do this. I'll take what I learned from my old man, but I'm going to do it my way and just.

Robb:

I mean that's, that's the plan, yeah.

Ryan:

Right, so I hope for our fingers crossed, one can only hope. Yeah, you know what pops? I think I'll stay in school and complete it. I won't do like a 10 year break like you did. Maniac, get this one and done.

Robb:

Everybody, everybody got their time.

Ryan:

I know, I know, I kid I jest, I just love make fun of myself sometimes.

Robb:

We should get it.

Ryan:

Yeah, true.

Robb:

Get you all accomplished.

Ryan:

I know I feel, I feel different, I feel smart.

Robb:

I feel show wicked.

Ryan:

Wicked, yeah, I feel good.

Robb:

That's great. I could like I don't know.

Ryan:

I got an evidence that said I completed something.

Robb:

There you go. You got evidence that says you know how to memorize things. Yeah, that's good, that's awesome. Yeah, I can't remember A lot of stuff. Yeah.

Ryan:

Hopefully put it into practice.

Robb:

And remember it.

Ryan:

Although my whatever I did learn is going right down the toilet because I don't even know how to do my kids homework sometimes. Oh, dude, there are some tricky things that they put in these homeworks.

Robb:

Yeah, and sometimes I'm, you know, and a lot of it is on purpose, you know, because they're trying to see how they can think outside the box. So I get it. Yeah, why? Like it's kind of like they're fucking, they're six. Chill out, seriously, chill out a little bit. You know, stop trying to bend these kids brains. Just make sure they know how to add and subtract. So when they have checkbooks if they're still existing their time like that they know how to like.

Ryan:

They're still a. Thing.

Robb:

I still use, I still write checks every month. Oh my God.

Ryan:

I don't remember the last time I wrote a check.

Robb:

Yeah, no, I write checks pretty regularly.

Ryan:

Nice.

Robb:

I mean, I write checks for my landscaping guys. Oh okay, so that's, that's every month, and I also write a check to my manager every month because, you know, I mean that's just kind of how we set it up.

Ryan:

No, no, that's fine.

Robb:

Yeah, I mean. I mean I mean there may be a way I could pay them digitally. I'm just kind of like I mean I got, I got the jack.

Ryan:

Well, I mean with the land. I get it with the landscaper guy.

Robb:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, because they're kind of like cash business for the most part yeah. Yeah.

Ryan:

But the manager no. I could see it, with check being relevant to.

Robb:

Yeah, I think they're. Yeah, they're the only two checks that I write. It's just I, just I write them every month.

Ryan:

Nice. I remember my mother getting so pissed with me for not learning how to manage my checkbook.

Robb:

I don't balance the checkbook. I was going to say Because that's digital, you know that I can see on, you know on my, on my statement. So there's no balancing needed, so, like when they give you a checkbook, it's literally just a book of checks.

Ryan:

Yes, there's no side book to.

Robb:

Yeah, yeah yeah. There's no statement booklet attached to it, it's just. It's just two, two books of checks.

Ryan:

Oh, mom would be so pissed with me. I mean, she still balances her checkbook and all that stuff. Really, yes, I I same reaction. I was like why?

Robb:

That's still a thing. It's like let's go to chasecom, Go to their mobile app. It's, it's.

Ryan:

You don't even need this book mom.

Robb:

Yeah, you don't actually need to do that.

Ryan:

No, it does it all for you. Yes, it's just, it's all automated, and it even warns you if there's outside purchases. You're like did you buy something for six grand? No, no, I didn't.

Robb:

Yeah, that's the one thing. I'll give big props to Chase's, like no joke with the fraud stuff.

Ryan:

Yeah.

Robb:

They'll, they'll, they'll, catch it. And it's funny because like, like, like, for example, so I, I, I, um, so I went on vacation and they don't have the thing now, or at least not that I could find. But they used to have a thing on Chase where you could say like, oh, I'm going to be traveling, and you could put whatever cities or countries that you're planning on being in so that if they see charges, they know that that's you.

Robb:

I didn't see that on their mobile app, so I don't know if it's still available or maybe I just wasn't looking properly, but I was like it is what it is. So I went overseas and I bought stuff on my with my card, with my debit card. Totally fine, no issues.

Ryan:

Okay.

Robb:

All right Now. Second story to piggyback on that, I misplaced my debit card a couple of months ago. I think it slipped out of my wallet at some point. Dang it. Whenever it was that that happened, charges quickly started to get to start being made, oh no.

Robb:

And I got called by Chase after like the third one and I was kind of like you know, they gave me the call and they were like, hey, you know we're seeing these, you know, odd charges like coming into your card, blah, blah, blah. And I looked at my statement and I was just like, yeah, I'm looking at my statement now. Yeah, these last like four charges weren't me, and then this one at this gas station that was me. They were like, okay, cool, sounds good. We know we'll wipe those for you and then we'll cancel the cards. And you know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So in my head and it was like random stuff, it was like a hundred bucks at like a hair place and like another 50 bucks at like a pharmacy. I don't know why. These are the places, wow.

Ryan:

Of all things.

Robb:

Debit thieves go to, but it's always pharmacies.

Ryan:

You know what I want to get my hair done? Yeah.

Robb:

It's very weird 50 bucks but in my head I was like so my, my purchase is in Norway and like and you know, and, and, and and. A bruise didn't set off triggers, but that's $60. Purchase at CVS.

Ryan:

They're like that's not the rub, we know.

Robb:

That's not. That's not a rub kind of thing to do. Norway, that's what I was like. That's Rob. Our guy travels CVS and spending 60, I don't know.

Ryan:

You know what?

Robb:

And then buying hair extensions. At this point I don't know I was going to say how do they? Know they're so good.

Ryan:

Yeah, and probably because there's humans at Chase that actually go, I wouldn't have never spent $60 at a CVS.

Robb:

That's what I'm saying Like, how, like, I don't know.

Ryan:

60 bucks at Walmart. How are they so good?

Robb:

Like what is it? It must be something when they do the charge that triggers that, I presume. Like obviously they don't have a pin or whatever. Right so maybe that's what it is Like. I don't know, I don't know. I just find it so funny.

Ryan:

Yeah, but you can still use your card as a credit.

Robb:

Well, he went to CVS and then he went to hairdressing place within 20 minutes of each other and spent 160 bucks. That's not the Rob Wino. The Rob Wino will spend $80 buying Gundam plastic model kits in one shot. That's the Rob Wino. What? How do you know that?

Ryan:

Yeah, it must have been the haircut, the salon spot, wherever, Because it's like have you ever seen this guy's mane? He would never cut that.

Robb:

That's what I'm saying Like it still boggles my mind, like yes, I buy like a $2,000 statue from Singapore. Totally okay, 60 bucks at CVS.

Ryan:

Nah, that's not him Unreal Like, absolutely not.

Robb:

That's too average of a purchase. That's not Rob.

Ryan:

It's not even average, it's just you can find it cheaper at a different store. Yeah, you know, like it's Of all places, cvs would be just a spot to get your medication and then go.

Robb:

Yeah, I just found that. I just find that so, so interesting. What is there? What are their red alerts for my statement? Or just statements in general? How does that work?

Ryan:

It has to be the items. I would hope it's the items.

Robb:

You know like, how do you know?

Ryan:

Like this guy. This guy bought a toothbrush soap. He's buying things that obviously you can get at different stores.

Robb:

I've gone to CVS, I've dropped like $70. So like it's not like they can see the items that I'm buying. They just know this is how much I spent there, you know. So it's kind of like how do you know? I want to know your witchcraft. Which craft do you use to understand my lifestyle?

Ryan:

You know what they? I'm convinced they have control of the cameras.

Robb:

Something.

Ryan:

They have to be looking at like that doesn't matter.

Robb:

They're watching all their clients. They got to be.

Ryan:

They have to, they got to be your customer.

Robb:

that's it.

Ryan:

You're under there, You're under their watch, it was under the fine print that you just zipped by without even looking at it. You own our card. We'll surveil you the entire lifespan.

Robb:

It's so interesting we're doing this permission to survey your entire life so that we know when a weird purchase shows up.

Ryan:

Same thing with Google. You know, that's how um AdSense stuff.

Robb:

man, adsense shit freaks me out.

Ryan:

Which one?

Robb:

Like AdSense stuff, like like when you like whether you Google something, and then all of a sudden that's all you see for the next like 20 years and like oh yeah, no, I'm like yo. I Googled cat food once. Why do I only see cat supplies now? That was my accident.

Ryan:

I swear, my Alexa devices, my algorithms all screwed up. Now, everything I look at, I automatically see advertisements for it constantly and it's and I just mentioned something like five minutes and they and they painfully say no, no, we're not, we're not checking you out, we're not monitoring you, not at all.

Robb:

We're not tracking anything. What do you mean?

Ryan:

Well, I'm shit sure, although I do appreciate some Thank you, you are listening to everything I say, like monitor.

Robb:

like you know, would you want us to monitor your stuff so that we can make the ads that appear more relevant to you, and I'm like no thanks.

Ryan:

I'm good it's creepy yeah. Can we not do that?

Robb:

You're basically asking permission to get me to become a shopaholic, and I don't appreciate that. I don't appreciate that. I'm better at it as it is. I'm impulsive enough as it is. I don't need your help, thanks.

Ryan:

Yeah, I got this under control, I got enough gym shirts, guys.

Robb:

Yeah, I got enough gym shirts, thank you.

Ryan:

Meanwhile it's like do you realize? I don't have that much money to spend all the time on what you want to me to spend on.

Robb:

Yeah, it's funny, david, I was talking to my wife about it, like about like her in, about our social media basically, and she and it's funny because she made a mention she was kind of like man, you know, everything I see in my social media is just like so negative. It's always like all this news about the world and blah, blah, blah, and I'm like that's the shit. You click, yeah, right, if you click to read and like all the bad shit and that's going on in the world and, yeah, that's all they're going to feed you because you're telling the algorithm that that is your interest, right. And she was just like, oh, and I'm like, yeah, have you ever looked at my Instagram? Like, take my phone and scroll through my Instagram and you're going to see literally three topics over and over again. 90% of it is going to be fitness people.

Ryan:

Yeah, right.

Robb:

And and like the other 10%, is like kickboxing stuff and that's kind of all my Instagram is is kickboxing and working out. I look at hers and it's news of the world and food and I'm like food. This tracks. There you go. This is why your Instagram looks very different from mine.

Ryan:

Oh, my God. I want to share with you what my Instagram is it's. It is one thing. One thing, that is one thing that dominates my Instagram, and it's Doxons, just Doxons. I can't get enough of them. Oh well, puppies. Oh good, they're so cute.

Robb:

They're like right now. If I go to mine, let me see the first thing. Yeah, the first thing I see is and I see these a lot because I bought one pair. Now they just want to shove these down my throat and it's, and it's barefoot shoes.

Ryan:

Barefoot shoes. Oh yeah, you were talking about that before.

Robb:

Yeah, so now I just see them from like every company, because I just bought one pair. Then there's voice actors. And here's a kickboxer, here's somebody we're doing a gym. Fail, there you go. So those come into my feet as well.

Ryan:

We love gym fails. More kickboxing.

Robb:

Yeah, there you go Up more working out. Oh an ad for a weight training thing.

Ryan:

There you go, that's important.

Robb:

Let's see Up more voiceover stuff, audio book stuff.

Ryan:

Oh, every now and then it gets parenting stuff.

Robb:

And kickboxing again. So that's like it's the same stuff over and over again.

Ryan:

See algorithms man.

Robb:

The algorithms. They just know what it is that you want to see and they feed it to you.

Ryan:

Yes.

Robb:

To a capacity. I guess I appreciate it. Like, do I want to see anything else? No, and I don't know Really, there's nothing else that really interests me that I would want to see on Instagram anyway.

Ryan:

Now.

Ryan:

So here's not that I spend too much time on it regardless, but still true, and I don't know if maybe Instagram just gets it right and YouTube doesn't, or YouTube does, but to me it's annoying Because I'm all about on YouTube, like I have my Reddit, because I love my Reddit. I love it very much, it's my happy place. I go to Reddit, but then I like YouTube also because every now and then there's just maybe I got 20 minutes to kill on the train and I don't want to circle through Reddit. I rather just watch something for maybe 15, 20 minutes, and that's where YouTube comes into play.

Robb:

Yeah, I like you too. I've done a really good job of kind of tailoring it to my tastes.

Ryan:

Yeah, and I feel like I've done that too. It's just, I feel like I've watched everything that I did want to watch from a specific, I guess YouTuber, and then it tries to feed me others, but then I'm not interested in those because I've watched their videos and I'm like this is complete shit compared to what I was watching.

Robb:

Yeah, I mean, you could always put don't recommend channel. I do that a lot.

Ryan:

Maybe I should do that.

Robb:

You know how, when you go to the main homepage and it gives you like six suggestions usually like. Two of those are people you actually watch and the other three are kind of like well if you want those, For those, if you know that you don't like what they are or what they're about like, if you click on the three bubbles you can. You could put don't recommend this channel and it'll stop feeding it to you.

Robb:

Oh, okay, Maybe that's what I got to do because I'm like I hate this One video once and it was like a hardcore, like red pill, male dominated kind of thing.

Ryan:

Oh good.

Robb:

I posted it like kind of critiquing it and I was like, oh yeah, this is like that shit crazy, okay, cool. But after that then I kept getting videos like populated about shit like that and I was like I don't want to see any of this crap and after like a couple of rounds of not recommending channels that were kind of leaning towards that, I stopped seeing themselves.

Ryan:

Yeah, okay.

Robb:

There's a way to. It is just you kind of kind of keep at it. Yeah, they don't keep kind of feed it to you and as long as you don't click on it to get the view like, it'll kind of erase it from your algorithm. And right now. Right now I get a lot of like on my YouTube. I get a lot of toy stuff because I might like statues and stuff like that. A lot of tech stuff, obviously because I'm a big computer builder.

Ryan:

Of course.

Robb:

People setups, people building stuff or people fixing like problems, food stuff, like I love seeing, like you know, like I love, not that I love, I'm fascinated by people that do food challenges, like okay.

Robb:

Like there's something about it that fascinates me when these people go to these restaurants that are offering like to eat these 10 pounds of food in like an hour and we'll give you $50. I'm like that's incredible, because there's like an entire village somewhere dying wishes that you have just 10 pounds of food, and yet there's this one person doing it for fun.

Ryan:

Like wow that's.

Robb:

This is a crazy world we live in. I'm just fascinated, so yeah, so I get those a bit and animal stuff. You know what's weird rabbit hole I fell into and for some reason I can't get enough of it.

Ryan:

I love when you fall into these rabbit holes. There's two weird ones?

Robb:

There's two weird rabbit holes that I fell into that I'm just like, absolutely fascinated by. One is one specific guy, and he's called the Hoof GP, hoof, gp, and all he does is trim cow hooves.

Ryan:

I feel like you talked about this guy a long time ago. I love this guy.

Robb:

I can't get enough of him. He's an Irish dude and he's, he's opened these cows from their, you know, messed up, jacked up hooves because they have white line fractures, something I never knew what it was, but now I'm very well versed on what white line fractures and how hooves are. Um yeah, so, like it's very weird. It's very weird, but I fell down that rabbit hole and I just like I was amazed. And another one is people in like it's.

Robb:

it's the ones that I've seen have mostly been um in Australia, but people that hunt rats on like farms huh but they use like like dogs to to to to like sniff them out Like these are dogs that are trained to sniff out rat dens and they're so good at their jobs. Nice Like these dogs are no joke. I am so unbelievably impressed at how well trained these animals are, because it's fast, they kill them quickly and man do they make short work of the of these like rat dens. It's. It's incredible to me.

Ryan:

That's awesome.

Robb:

Yeah, but this is weird. It was like thank you too for apparently finding the weirdest shit that apparently me and 700,000 other people are watching.

Ryan:

Yeah, I'm not interested in you.

Robb:

Yeah, it's weird, it's very weird.

Ryan:

That's amazing. Yeah, I do want to say um, I at one point, um, uh, I don't know if you know this gentleman, he's kind of big right now, uh, in the fitness community for being either Hated or followed. Um, greg, who Greg do set? Is this the V shred guy?

Robb:

Oh yeah, oh you mean oh yeah, I know about the V shred so. I am a lot of a lot of the fitness guys, that's, which is another Thing of YouTube that I follow a lot. A lot of fitness people say yeah, and I know, I know about the V shred. Yeah everybody that I know hates him.

Ryan:

They all hate him.

Robb:

Yeah, everybody hates him, him and the Athlean X guy. Nobody likes me.

Ryan:

Well, at one point I I I got annoyed because one of his goddamn ads came on just this, like tell me to eat pizza instead of salads. And I'm like you know, yeah, they're hard to get my Off my goddamn feet, I just want to watch my video in peace. Now I got, I got all the videos that are hating on this guy because of him, because of my one comment Outlawed to myself Yep, and that's what triggered it. And hey, they don't listen to us.

Robb:

V shred forever.

Ryan:

Oh, please, god, no, yep, sorry dude, no, I don't want, I don't care for this guy. I you know what, just for Only because of just critical, my critical thinking nature of always questioning stuff and I don't take things as face value, which is probably why this guy got so popular is because his marketing scheme is probably impeccable. Oh yeah he has a very clever marketing like right.

Robb:

He, he pitches a very good game, which is why he got popular, because that's what people want. They want his body, one, no, they want to be able to eat whatever they want no. And two, they want to know that there's an easy way for that to happen. And he sells all the. He checks every box and it's ultimately just not not cool bro. Yeah, I mean, I'm athlete X kind of sort of does this same?

Ryan:

I don't know about him though.

Robb:

Well now, really, it's not that he does the same, it's that a lot of the movements that he does in in in his like workouts that he says like, oh, there's a way better shoulder, blah, blah, blah, blah a lot of people. They're like dude, stop reinventing the wheel. What you doing is nonsense. There's plenty of Moves that already exist. Yeah, right out the muscles that you have. Stop creating shit. That's just nonsense or potentially gonna get people hurt.

Ryan:

Yeah, talk about a dangerous trend.

Robb:

Yeah, so that's another thing, and it and it and it sucks because the guy is incredibly shredded. He's a little bit older so people are gonna listen, which is the same, which you know. It's a shame, because you know People automatically think because the person is, you know, shredded that they know exactly what is good for everyone. It's like that's not the case.

Ryan:

No, you gotta do you boo yeah gotta do it works for you Not. All body types are the same and there's not, and you know what I hate saying it, cuz there's not. There's not body types, there's just. You know what, what your goal is. What are you looking for?

Robb:

Yeah and one person I think you would really appreciate is um. Dr Mike is retail. Oh okay, he's actually really awesome. He has a channel on on YouTube and he's actually really cool. He is a, he's a, he has a PhD in sport physiology and and he also he, he has a company I forget what they're called, but he has a company also that has like a, you know, like a workout kind of thing. I think it's that thing. Oh, renaissance periodization that's the name of his like company or whatever.

Ryan:

Oh, that sounds like familiar, like that.

Robb:

But he has really good videos and a lot of his videos are looking at celebrity workouts. Oh, because people want to look like celebrities, because some of them look amazing and he'll watch them and he'll, and he'll critique the workout. I'm being like why, why are they making this actor do these things? Because these are stupid movements. Why are they doing? You would love him. You would love him.

Ryan:

I got it. I Gotta see, because there there was a doctor that I did see and he, like, at the very beginning of the video, he's like these are my credentials. This is why, you know, I I'm telling you this is because I have a background in this, so you can look me up and here's my degrees and all that and I like that and I appreciate that because it's like you know, you're for your, your, your hard work, like you, you put your backbone into it and and you have sources that back up what you're saying and that's what I appreciate, like I don't want you, just your word.

Robb:

Yeah, that's why, that's why I like him, because he's also very built himself, like he's. He's a big dude himself. Yeah, so like he not only knows what he's talking about, but he, he absolutely is a practice what you preach, kind of guy nice. Um, so yeah, I think I think you appreciate. I think, yeah, his channel is the name of his like company, renaissance periodization, so they have a lot of videos, I feel like you'll see them right away.

Robb:

A lot of his videos You'll see when he like, critiques the rock and like what he does. There's another one he's critiquing Jason Momoa, but he created. He critiques a lot of like celebrities that that always do those men's health videos Right, what do you eat every day? And then they're like what's your workout look like? To look like this and, funny enough, he has a video with the V-Shred guide. It says scammer on it.

Ryan:

No, I'm I'm pretty sure it's one of the videos I did watch, but I didn't realize who I was watching.

Robb:

Yeah, so he's, from what you recommend, a very funny like. That's what I like about his videos. He's actually very funny.

Ryan:

There's a bald guy, isn't? No, not bald, but very short hair.

Robb:

Yeah.

Ryan:

Nice, I'll have to look him up. Yeah, probably will like him, cuz yeah, you'll a brow.

Robb:

Of all the fitness guys, he's probably one of the funniest ones, nice yeah.

Ryan:

I'm all about it. Yeah, super trends. You know what also is really trendy that I just Figured I would throw in there dad jokes.

Robb:

Oh, when we came back, we're gonna like you know it's been a while Fine it's been a while and you'll laugh at this one cuz. No promises, but I know.

Ryan:

I know, I promise you're gonna like it. You're like it, I'm setting the stage. So did you know that the people of Athens have a really tough time actually waking up before noon? You know why? Why they say dawn is really tough on Greece.

Robb:

You know what? Dawn is tough on grease, up on grease. That's a dish washing, dish washing.

Ryan:

God.

Robb:

I'll give you points for for being clever.

Ryan:

You know, speaking of grease, you know, french fries weren't really made in France, they were made in Greece.

Robb:

Oh God, all right do you have another grease one, if you have a third, if you have a try back.

Ryan:

I wish, I Wish I had another grease joke, that one I just remembered off the cuff. I was like, oh, there's another one, thank you, thank you. Oh, man, it's been a pleasure Talking with you again. It's been so goddamn long. Yeah, man, it's been a while. I Appreciate it so much.

Robb:

It's been a hot minute.

Ryan:

It is it has but, like you said before, you know we're and like our audience knows we're debts. You know things come up and we got to do things.

Robb:

This is true, we got a.

Ryan:

We got to be parents.

Robb:

Number one thing yeah man, I mean, you know something, we got. We got a handle business.

Ryan:

Yeah, we do. Well, I tune in for some more fun. We'll be back First of many. Try to. I'll try. I actually will try to send a shout out. I mean I think I did. I sent a shout out to all. When we were going on like hiatus, but I didn't expect it to be this long.

Robb:

Just happened.

Ryan:

Yeah, it's alright, but alright, Well, bye guys. Thank you everyone.

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